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Auto-block - bug or intended?

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@lHagenl wrote:

Okay this annoys me for a while now, and I am not sure whether it is a bug or intended. I don''t know where to put this topic, so feel free to move it somewhere else, mods. In case this is known and this has already been discussed please direct me into the right direction.

The game auto-blocks overheads and lows under certain circumstances.

I always was impressed by my opponents god-like reactions whenever I went for a Kan-Ra setup I came up with until I saw in training mode, that the game is doing all the work for my opponent.

I will add a video later but until then, here is the setup that you can try out for yourself to see this happen.

record your dummy Kan-Ra doing the following setup:

clutch, dash forward, light swarm, instant jumping forward MK

Now take control of your character and hold down back.

What always should happen:
Clutch causes a hard knock down giving Kan-Ra time to dash in and do a light swarm. Your character will get up and get hit by the j.MK and the swarm at the same time.

What sometimes happens:
While you are holding down back your character will eat the clutch and you will be on the ground. When you get up (still holding down back) your character will ignore your inputs and stand up for a very short moment to block the overhead j.MK.

Switch Kan-Ra's j.MK with cr.MK and just hold back with your character and it will crouch block that cr.MK.

Why is that happening? I know that you can't get hit by fast multi hitting moves when you block the first hit (see Kan.Ra's back + MP). But I also know that this not true whenever you get hit by lows or overheads. Whenever you block Cinder's low flame thrower move and you stand up while crouch blocking you will get hit.

This is not exclusive to Ra and this does not happen every time

The point of this thread is to get answers on why this is happening, whether this is a bug or intended and under what circumstances it happens.

When you try out that setup in training mode you might get the j.MK to hit overhead. It is absolutely possible. My theory on how this works is this:
Whenever your opponent getting up, the swarm hitting and the j.MK hitting happens at the exact same frame, the game will register the j.MK as an overhead. j.MK has 3 active frames. So for all this to happen you have a 3 frame window.
Whenever you are hitting the j.MK a little bit too late, your opponent will already be in block stun because of the swarm and the j.MK will get auto blocked.

I tried different setups to recreate this with other characters. I wanted to know whether this is just another one of Ra's oddities. But I found something similar with Fulgore:

Nearly Full screen, Record the dummy doing this:
double light fireball, teleport behind opponent, overhead when the projectiles hit.

In case you block the fireballs, the game will block the overhead for you.

@developers @TheKeits, @Infilament please help me out here!

EDIT:
here it is

As you can see. I am holding down back all the time. Sometimes it hits, sometimes it gets blocked

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All characters dossiers 100%, Just need Kilgore

The Instinct Rages On - a special KI Legacy and New Year wallpaper made by me!

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@UltraZeroX7 wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen, with the year 2016 coming to a close and the year 2017 approaching, I present to you this wallpaper!

VARIANT 1

VARIANT 2

Dah-dah-daaaaaaaahhh! This is my masterpiece to you folks! I've worked on it for several weeks, and boy, it was worth the effort and determination!

Happy New Year everyone! Hopefully 2017 will be a great year to all, especially for Killer Instinct with its upcoming content! Until then, folks. :sunglasses:

LONG LIVE KI AND FIGHT ON!!!

(Credits to @Ravan86 for much of the transparent KI 2013 renders!)

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Can we change how things work here

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@UndeadShinobi6 wrote:

Hey guys I have only been here a a little wile since last year and may I say I'm really starting to dislike the way the forum are run here opposed to other forums I have visited so can we have some changes.

Number 1. General Discussion and Off Topic : I have found so many Killer Instinct Topics that have been moved into the Off Topic section and this really annoys me. I'm sorry but where I come from if you have a Topic Related to what the Forum is about no matter what it is even if its as simply as the name Killer Instinct in the Title then that should be in General Discussion because it is still a Killer Instinct Discussion. No matter what if it's a Killer Instinct Discussion then it should be in General Discussion after all that is what General Discussion means.

Number 2. Locking Threads: I find this also to be irritating when thread are locked normally when a Moderator thinks the Thread has run its course or has gone off topic. Just because a Moderation think's it has run it's course dose not mean other people comment on this thread are finished. As for the Thread going off Topic it would be better if someone was appointed to put the threads back on Topic Opposed to just plain out locking them and stopping everyone from comment, This is a place for everyone to have discussions is it not Threads are bound to go off topic some times punishing people for some times going off topic is just silly and wrong.

Number 3. Moving Thread's or Locking them Because of Double up's or being in the wrong Category: This is one other thing that annoys me if not the most to have a moderator do something to your thread with no warning at all. Some people may of posted something some where by accident or for a reason again with double up's some people may of posted it for a reason or they simply did not know someone else has already posted the same subject. It would be nice if Moderators could Discuss why a person has posted there Thread in that place they did and then give warning what there going to do before Moving /Merging/Locking the Threads.

These are my pet peeves about the Forum and the Changers I personally would like to see Thank you for your time.

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Random Announcer

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@UndeadShinobi6 wrote:

Would it be out of the Question to have a Random Announcer. Instead of just having the single announcer set you can have all of them set and there just Randomized.

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Killer Instinct No Limits Tournament Conclusion

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@hyperpyro12345 wrote:

As to anyone wondering why I didn't do an extra match after the "finals" my only reason is that ive run every other tourney that way, and haven't had a problem with it before, im sorry if you expected something else out of the finals but that is how it is. And that's how the bracket was setup from the beginning if you wanted me to change it, questions should've been asked earlier. And it is a local tournament and rules can be changed. So to summarize, It was a great tournament there were a lot of great players, and I had a lot of fun hosting them. Thank you to everyone who participated, Prizes will be handed out around the first week of January. GG GUYS!!! See you in another one hopefully!!!

PRE-SHOW

TOURNAMENT

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Here's wishing everyone a happy new year for KI!

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@JEFFRON27 wrote:

Here's wishing a happy new year to the developers, and the community. May next year be more graceful to us and also with more new things to expect in our horizen. may 2017 be the Ultimate year, and the coming months fill you with Ultra happiness : P and give you the strength the Combo Break the bad joo-joo that 2016 gave us.

-JEFFRON27 (AKA: Red-Riptor)

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Have the balance of KI Season 3 been really figured out?

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@HexShark wrote:

Hi there. I found an article really interesting about balance that I would like to share with you guys:

Are we leaving games before we fully figure out their balance?

This article sparked some questions to me regarding KI as it is now. I think that, over almost 1 year of Season 3, we still don't know the true balance of the game. We got and will receive more new chars and this will change things, but I think KI should pass for a 'maturity' point. We should let Season 3 to roll for more 1~2 years so we can better comprehend its metagame. There are tons of strategies awaiting to be discovered, and this could change ( for bad or good ) our entire perception of the game as it is right now.

I would like to hear your opinions about this matter.

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Killer Instinct TV series in CW

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@kamenriderzer02 wrote:

Following DC's Arrow, Flash, Supergirl & Legends, how would you picture a Killer Instinct TV series in CW?

And who would you cast the characters?

Somi from IOI as Kim Wu

Kristanna Loken as ARIA

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Who would you want to come back?

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@VladKravich wrote:

So F3 Sleep made a poll of this on twitter so I'm bringing it here to the forums. Out of these former KI players, who would you want to come back to the pro/tournament/twitchstreaming scene and why?

  • - CDjr
  • - Hitbox Tyrant
  • - Mr Grimmz
  • - Filthyrich

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Which one would you want to comeback?

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@VladKravich wrote:

Remaking this thread since the last one got wrecked. (Votes weren't public and there was a fifth and empty option that I couldn't delete.)

F3 Sleep made a poll of this on twitter so I'm bringing it here to the forums. Out of these former KI players, who would you want to come back to the pro/tournament/twitchstreaming scene and why?

  • CDjr
  • Hitbox Tyrant
  • Mr Grimmz
  • Filthyrich

0voters

Votes are public.

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Buff Izzik!

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@MasterZenek wrote:

Hi everyone!

I've been playing my share of Gargos lately, and after getting his Chosen One achievement, I realized how much I appreciated the Dretch, while almost exclusively ignoring Izzik due to its fragility.

Usually my Dretch buddies will last long enough to charge up for its handy "bounce on Gargos' opponent's noggin" command, but my Izziks rarely last long enough to do damage, much less annoy foes with its fancy trident.

I think it would get more people like myself to unleash more Izziks onto the battlefield if it took a little less time for the blue minions to charge up their special attack than their tougher Dretch counterparts. In comparison, it takes both Dretch & Izzik 10 seconds before it starts giving off purple smoke to let the Gargos player that its super jump is ready, but Dretch has 3 hit points and is a little more difficult to smack around than Izzik with its 2 hit points and linear walking pattern.

How would you feel it Izzik was fully charged for its super move within 7 seconds instead of 10?

-Zenek

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Forbidden archive foreground discovery

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@aWholio wrote:

I was messing around with a bug i found that let eyedols camera diring instinct look from the opposite direction. And found these couple of dudes chillin out of camera view. Figuree they're preloaded models for something but there's no one in the bg of this stage right?

Can't post img hmm

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Happy new year 2017

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@G0tei13Izaragi wrote:

Hi guys i wish you and your family a happy new year 2017 and best wishes, could the life bring the best for you and your family.
more money, more love and joyce.... For all this Forum peoples without exception.

And overall i wish the best for the SPIDER COMMUNITY
HAVE A GOOD ONE GUYZ :grin:

@UATBNDaymein ,llPaulBll @SoSRaGnArOk @lumierefatale , @KDD86 ,phycotica ,zzgrief ,ulsaltgod ,xbekingshakax ,tdbmitonson ,xevilscottmanx ,ryuinurday @ItsTSwagg
,iamxxskill4exx ,maciaga ,jorodumo31 ,llragnahero ,infernalblondy ,D4nnyxBOY
,scstunna864 ,gironeous @WeddedOx1116077 @HeliumHead2030 ,G0th1cycle
,KPbones32 ,SOBEMAN209 ,blitzxfractureo ,c88shadowshell ,NamelessUchiha ,barbiegirlx559 @JayKid ,Xx3y4Lif3xX ,Mrgamer511 ,xCRYSTALFLASHx @BrrDub
,bigtobyloc86 ,UxREALLYxSUCK @MonsieurDerp ,TAKA80 ,V1internet ,mhazar
,migueleguia ,seanskip ,dalostsoul ,gustavormz98 ,xrecklessteddyx ,LTMcwaffles
blindside206 ,stahlhagel25 ,TDBKi4Life ,startricker

AND MORE AND MORE LOL (these are the only ones i know of ive seen) but i wish the best for all Spider member.

ARE you GUYZ, UP TO ELECT THE BEST SPIDER QUEEN OF 2016-2017? im gonna make a date proposition soon,
A competition all in mirror matchs Sadira vs Sadira = show your skills :smirk: and let see that you are of has been The best Spider queen or year 2016-2017

it will happen between a saturday of a sunday ( we are goin to vote for it ) ill make proposal later in the year. in this proposal would be the months, and the day + hours ( it goin to be a vote choice and only the players allowed in competition would vote. ALSo prizes to win for the 3 first. like xbox live 1year etc....... more details later in the year before july. so you guyz have enough time .

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Can someone please explain RAAMS Kryll Armor During Kryll Rush?

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@ZDhome wrote:

It clearly doesnt follow the regular Armor guidelines, as it doesnt get beaten by Heavy Normals, it doesnt work against shadow moves, and it doesnt seem to have any rhyme or reason as to when it is interrupt-able.

I have tested stuffing the move with All strengths of moves, and at all points in the move (Startup, Running, Active, Startup of GRAB), and i cant draw any conclusions at all.

I have successfully stuffed the armor using every strength of move at every point in the move, and have also failed, and had the armor stop me, at all points of the move.

(The game doesnt accurately explain it either. The game just says "Has kryll armor" without telling me WHEN it is in effect, and the "Kryll Armor" description doesnt have any mention of my issue, how it ignores the "grounded heavy normals" rule, or how it is beaten by shadow moves.

Also, i do not see this same thing happening with any other move that uses Kryll armor)

I KNOW this isn't random, but "random" is the only word i can find for this. The only other thing i can think to do is to record EVERY possible situation and watch the replays frame by frame. I'm sure i must be doing something wrong, right?

help me @TheKeits ?

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Kilgore Fanart

"FLIPPER" / Kilgore Premium purchase Bug on PC?

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@CPUGHOST wrote:

Ok guys something really weird just happened and hopefully the KI Devs will know what this means...

I own both season 3 and definitive edition on PC and I was just in survival mode and I selected the Kilgore Icon to check the days remaining countdown thing and there was no timer showing - here is the screenshot to prove it:

So then I pushed X on my controller to select it and the "process premium purchase request" screen appeared as per the screenshot here:

Then the microsoft billing screen appeared (which I wont post images of for obvious reasons) and just said:

"FLIPPER"
7.95
followed by my credit card details (as per the default little white billing screen that appears when you buy colours etc)

So I checked my bank account and I has indeed charged 7.95 by microsoft billing, but I didnt get anything.....
and better yet, what the hell is FLIPPER? It didnt even say Kilgore!

UPDATE: Ok now when I go into the store/collection menu I can click on Kilgore and I see this


i clicked install but nothing happened....

also here is the details in my billing

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Maya Retro costume

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@Ratly wrote:

So I haven't played KI for a bit but recently I noticed that when I choose Maya's retro costume she's wearing a black necklace. It appears that it's permanently equipped even if I try to unequip it.

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What Games do You Want to Get/Play tin 2017?

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@justathereptile wrote:

Well 2017 is here and since we are all gamers What games do you plan on getting or playing this year.

It can be ether a game you ahven't played yet, a game your currently playing with big updates coming ect.

For me its the following so far.
EDF 5
Ark: Primal Survival
KI season 4 (When/If that doe shappen)
Sonic Mania
Sonic generations 2 (That's not the final ttilebut it's close to it)

Not sure what else there is to say, but I mght add games tot he list or try new ones down the road.

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Getting characters unlocked

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@AdriftLion56875 wrote:

Hi everyone. Happy new year too. I just bought KI Definitive Edition on the disc for bout $40 and they all characters will be on there. Well after installing everything including KI Shadow Lords I'm only able to play with season one characters. How do I unlock season 1&2. Thanks if anyone can help

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